Thursday, 6 December 2018

Jobpath Private Companies Getting €3,718 For Every Jobseeker

Copy and pasted from The Journal.ie

Link to article at bottom of page

Private companies getting €3,718 for every jobseeker that makes it through the State's Jobpath scheme

How much the companies got paid per person has been shrouded in secrecy since the roll out of the programme.

Private Companies are entitled to €3,718 for every jobseeker that gains sustained employment for one year through the JobPath scheme.

JobPath is an employment activation service provided to people who have been on the live register for more than 12 months and are trying to secure and sustain full-time paid employment or self-employment.

Department officials told the Oireachtas Public Accounts Committee today that the two private companies employed by the State, Turas Nua and Seetec, have received €75.7 million and €73.3 million respectively.

The committee was also told that about 190,000 people have gone through the scheme.

How much the companies got paid per person has been shrouded in secrecy since the roll out of the programme. The reason cited for this was that the information was commercially sensitive due to the public procurement process.

However, the PAC was told yesterday that both companies had agreed to share the figures and place them on the public record.

Concerns over repeat fees

Concerns have been raised about the repeat fees being paid to the companies operating  JobPath, with TheJournal.ie reporting in September that 11,000 people have been referred to the scheme for a second time having already completed the programme in full.

Sinn Féin’s David Cullinane asked for the breakdown of how much the company is awarded, depending on how successful the person is in employment.

Initial registration fees for each of the 190,000 people who have so far engaged with the JobPath scheme amounts to €311 per person.

The companies then receive job-sustainment fees which are paid four times:

After 13 weeks of sustained employment, the company gets €613.

After 26 weeks of sustained employment, it gets another €737.

After the person is in employment 39 weeks, the company gets €892.

And after 52 weeks of employment the company gets €1,165.

If a person makes there way through the programme to 52 weeks in work, Turas Nua or Seetec, then would receive €3,718.

A statement from the Department of Social Protection states that JobPath is an activation service, not a placement service and the costs per participant are in the region €781.

“The performance-related fee structure set out above is based on a payment-by-results model whereby the contractors have met all initial start-up costs with a relatively small fee per person who receives the service and more substantial fees when a result is achieved,” it added.

Staying in employment

Of the 190,000 engaged so far – 17% sourced employment which was sustained for 13 weeks, 14% for 26 weeks, 12% for 39 weeks and 9% for 52 weeks.

The Controller and Auditor General, Seamus McCarthy, told the committee yesterday that only 7% were still in employment after 12 months.

The C&AG said that 16,000 people had dropped out of the programme, but that 16,000 were still in the process of it, with a further 69,000 in agreed Personal Progression Plans (PPP). These plans are signed up to by the jobseeker when enrolled in the scheme.

Civil servants told the committee that the scheme was value for money, as it was delivering on targets set by the Department of Social Protection.

Raising concerns about repeat payments being made to the companies for the same person partaking in the programme for a second time, Sinn Féin spokesperson for Employment Affairs and Social Protection John Brady said essentially the private companies are receiving two payments of €311 for every one of the 11,000 people referred twice.

“The bottom line is JobPath has failed, it has provided 9% of those who have engaged with the scheme with a job that has been sustained for one year at an enormous cost to the taxpayer,” he said.

He said the Social Protection Minister Regina Doherty has described this scheme as the most successful job activation scheme in the history of the State.

“I think the taxpayers of Ireland who are actually paying for it would have a different view,” he added.

Link to article on the journal website  https://www.thejournal.ie/jobpath-fees-4367277-Nov2018/

Link to the Jobpath report http://www.welfare.ie/en/downloads/JobPath-Performance-Report2017.pdf

Calls For Jobpath Programme To Be Scrapped

Copy and pasted from Ocean FM.

Donegal TD Thomas Pringle calls on the government to scrap JobPath

A Donegal TD is calling on the government to scrap the Jobpath programme claiming that the amount spent on it isn’t justified.

Independent Deputy Thomas Pringle is calling for the program to go based on figures published by the Department of Employment Affairs and Social protection.

The report dated from 2015, when the programme was implemented, shows that Jobpath only helped 2% of people gain full time employment.

Deputy Pringle says that the funds could be used a lot more effectivley elsewhere.

Link to article https://www.oceanfm.ie/2018/11/15/donegal-td-thomas-pringle-calls-on-the-government-to-scrap-jobpath/

The Reason For Not Posting

For anyone reading this blog and was wondering why my last post was in April 2017 last year and then I posted on June this year and said that I was back on Jobpath for a second time and that I would write about it then there were no more posts.

What I will say for now is that Seetec/People1st are monitoring this blog as well as other peoples social media accounts to see if anyone posts anything about Jobpath. I was and have been intimidated by a senior member of staff in People1st/Seetec and told I would be taken to court if I posted anything else on this blog.

I will give a full account of what happened and what was said to me very soon.

Tuesday, 19 June 2018

So It Begins Once Again

Once again I have received a letter informing me I am being put on jobpath.

Once again I will write all about my experience about being on it.

Friday, 21 April 2017

Public Performance

As I mentioned previously in my C.V. Course aka Gateway post there is a television in a room on the wall in the People1st building in Letterkenny. When I did the C.V. course they had the television tuned into RTE news before the course started which was then hooked up to a laptop to show the slides they had to show. Now most weeks when I walk past the room where the television is when I have to job search the television is turned on and tuned into RTE news when the room is not being used for "Gateway".

Do People1st have a TV licence?

On the AnPost website it says the following under TV Licence General FAQ.

Do you have a television set in your office or business premises?

If you have a television set at your business premises it is your legal obligation to have a valid TV Licence. There is no requirement to have a TV Licence for each set as one TV Licence covers all TV sets at a single premises.You must also have a valid TV Licence even if the television set is just being used for meetings or for training purposes.

http://www.anpost.ie/AnPost/TVLicence/TVLicenceStandard.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID=%7b0C160E7A-4F62-4357-BC21-7FB999396792%7d&NRORIGINALURL=%2fAnPost%2fMainContent%2fPersonal%2bCustomers%2fMore%2bfrom%2bAn%2bPost%2fTV%2bLicence%2fGeneral%2bTV%2bLicence%2bFAQs%2ehtm&NRCACHEHINT=Guest#busprem

Regardless of whether People1st in Letterkenny have or don't have a TV Licence more importantly do they have an IMRO Dual Music Licence?

Since the 13th of March 2017 there has been a radio sitting on the floor in the People1st building in Letterkenny turned up really loud. There is only one reason I can think of why it is there and why it is on switched on everyday.

This is an attempt to prevent other people from over hearing personal information being given out by either the unemployed people or the job advisers when in actual fact it does the opposite as the job advisers now talk even louder than ever before as they can't hear themselves other wise.

Do People1st/Seetec have an IMRO Dual Music Licence for these public performances?

Some of the radio stations that they have tuned into so far include, Today FM, 2FM and one of the worst radios stations in Ireland, iRadio. As I write this its tuned into Al Porter on Today FM who's as funny as a toothache.

I have posted below some of the faqs that are on the imro website site along with a link to their site.

https://www.imro.ie/faqs/

It’s only staff that listen to the radio / watch TV in the workplace, the general public don’t have access to the business premises so why do I still have to pay for an IMRO Dual Music Licence?
It is irrelevant who in your organisation has access to copyright music via the TV/radio. What is relevant is that the use of music in the workplace is in public and is considered a public performance of the copyright work, because the performance / music use is taking place outside of the domestic environment.

Do I need a licence? All I use is a TV / radio!

Yes you do. All TV and radio broadcasts contain copyright music, hence an IMRO Dual Music Licence is required.. Holding an IMRO Dual Music Licence is a legal requirement if you are using IMRO controlled copyright music in any business or workplace in the Republic of Ireland, including the use of music via TV’s, radios, music systems, PC’s, music in presentations, music on hold, live music, discos, karaoke, etc.

What is meant by “public performance”?

A public performance of copyright music takes place when that music is used anywhere outside of the domestic environment.

The staff bring in their own radio, it doesn’t belong to the company.


Under Sec 37 (2) of the Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000 ‘the copyright in a work is infringed by a person who without the licence of the copyright owner undertakes, or authorises another to undertake’, the public performance of the work. Therefore in effect by allowing staff use their own radio in the workplace, you are, as their employer, authorising the use of music on your premises and you must hold an IMRO Dual Music Licence to allow you and them to do so.

https://www.imro.ie/music-users/which-licence-suits-my-business/factories-offices/

A Dual Music Licence from IMRO is required if you use copyright music as a background to work, meals, breaks, exercise and recreation at workplaces such as offices, factories, canteens or restrooms. A Dual Music Licence applies to performances of copyright music within the repertoire controlled by IMRO & PPI.

This blog is having some sort of effect as not only have they now got a radio on the floor turned up loud to try and give people some kind of privacy but they also since the start of January 2017 have A4 printed sheets on ALL the job advisers desks that read the following "Private room available on upon request" 

Obviously People1st/Seetec/ are in a quandary as to how to keep things private concerning people giving out personal information in an open public space, hence the radio playing and A4 sheets on desks informing about a private room.

But the question still reminds, do People1st/Seetec have an IMRO Dual Music Licence?

Thursday, 23 March 2017

Job Searching Every Week Is A Pointless Exercise

Job searching is a pointless exercise as its the same jobs week in week out that are advertised bar about ten new ones. Some of the jobs are over 29 days old and were ones me and other job seekers would have looked at the week before as well as the month before. Type "jobs Ireland" into google and you will get a list of websites that advertise jobs in Ireland, here are some:

www.jobsireland.ie
www.jobs.ie
www.irishjobs.ie/
ie.indeed.com
www.monster.ie

Now go into any of those sites and type in Donegal or any other part of Ireland you live in and you will see the jobs that are advertised, go into the same sites next week and you will only see about ten new jobs advertised and the rest are all ones you looked at the week before therefore rendering job searching every week for Jobpath a pointless exercise.




Then there is travelling. If an unemployed person lives near their nearest People1st center then they might be able to walk to their nearest center, yet there are others who don't live near their nearest center and have to travel and pay to travel out of their own pocket to job search every week at their nearest People1st building.

Some one living in Lifford their nearest People1st center is Letterkenny
Some one living in Moville their nearest People1st center is Buncrana
Some one living in Gortahork their nearest People1st center is Dungloe

An unemployed person only gets travelling expenses if they have to see their job adviser for a review or if its for the Gateway CV course they have to attend which is compulsory for everyone that is put on jobpath, they don't get travelling expenses when they have to go and job search every week so if they travel from say Lifford then they would have to pay the bus fair themselves every week out of their dole and will only get travelling expenses for the day they see their job adviser. They don't tell you this at the Group session the only thing they do tell you is you will get reimbursed if you drive or if you travel by bus and it has to be a public bus not a private one. 


So for the week an unemployed person has to travel to Letterkenny or Buncrana or Dungloe or which ever center is nearest to where they live they have to pay out of their dole the bus fair or fuel for their car if they drive. An unemployed person in receipt of jobseekers allowance or benefit and not on Jobpath (yet) has to sign on every 4 weeks, if the unemployed person lives more then 10 miles from the nearest social welfare office they don't have to travel there every 4 weeks to sign on, If they live over 10 miles from the nearest social welfare local office they only sign on every 12 weeks.

Yet anyone on Jobpath that doesn't live near a People1st center has to travel and pay a bus fair every week or pay for the price of putting extra fuel into a car just to go into a building every week to sit and look at the same jobs that were advertised the week before bar about six to ten new ones.

An unemployed person only gets paid travelling expenses when they have a "review" with their job adviser, so the day they have to see their job adviser they would get reimbursed either their bus fair or if they drive they get a few extra euro. They don't get travelling expenses if they use a private bus or a taxi only if its a public bus or they drive their own car.

I have spoken with other job seekers and they have also told me that they have to pay the bus fair out of their own dole every week and they only get their bus fair paid the day they have to see their job adviser. I know one man who has to drive to his nearest People1st building to job search every week which is 18 miles from where he lives and 18 miles back home again that's 36 miles every week, all he gets is 12 euro towards his fuel and that is only paid if its a day he has to see his job adviser, every week when he has to go into the People1st building to job search he has to pay for the fuel himself, its hard enough for people to run a car in Ireland but to have to drive 36 miles every week to look at the same jobs being advertised is nothing but a disgrace. People1st/Seetec calculate the mileage from google maps. Someone driving a 1 liter car is going to use less miles per gallon than someone driving a 2 liter car yet both get paid the same amount of money for travelling the same distance.

Take for example someone who lives in Lifford, their nearest Jobpath People1st center is Letterkenny which means two things. They take the bus or if they have a car then they drive. If they take a bus but don't live near the bus stop then not only have they to take the bus but might also have to get a taxi to the bus stop which they are not reimbursed for. They are only reimbursed travel expenses if its for a "review" and if they take a public bus or drive. Getting from Lifford to Letterkenny takes about 20 to 30 minutes in a car depending on traffic and slightly longer on a bus.

Therefore with the bus taking about half hour to forty minutes to get to Letterkenny then the person walking from the bus station at the Station roundabout in Letterkeny to the People1st building on Main Street they have wasted about an hour or more just to get there. Then once there they have to spend an hour and a half looking at jobs on a computer before having to make the journey back home again which could take about an hour after leaving the center, that's about an hour just to get there and back then an hour and half job searching which by the way is always the same jobs advertised week in week out bar maybe ten new job adverts so about three hours of wasted time, time that could have been spent looking for real jobs instead of sitting on a bus and sitting there for an half hour or more then having to "job search" an hour and half looking at the same jobs.

As there are so few new jobs being advertised each week it can be very onerous not only in job searching but also applying for jobs as once you apply for a job you can't apply again for the same job and with so few new jobs being advertised it is an arduous activity.

If driving from say Lifford to Letterkenny after getting into the town and hoping there is no traffic jams a person then has to find a parking space. The job searching is for an hour and a half so that rules out the parking spaces on the Main Street as they are only free for a half hour after that its 1 euro per hour so unless a person who drives wants to go out and keep putting money into a parking meter which by the way costs money and for which Jobpath don't reimburse then a driver needs to find a car parking space that will allowed him or her to park for more then an hour.

If a person has their review and lives far away then they might want to do their job searching before or after their review so either way your talking an hour and half then anything from a half hour to 40 minutes for the review so again that's nearly two hours a person is going to spend in the People1st building at any given time.

Jobpath is a bit like giving 20 people €10 and telling them to go into the bookies every week and place bets on horses, after a while one or two people out of that 20 might win something. Jobpath is the same its all about sending C.V.s and spamming employers with said C.V.s and job applications every week in the hope that out of all the C.V.s sent and jobs applied for an employer might give someone a job.


Nothing more then a pointless exercise.

Tuesday, 7 March 2017

Seventh Review

For my seventh review my job adviser had told me that she had gotten word back from the place where she had sent my C.V. and told me that they are not looking for anyone at this time but if any positions came up either she or they would contact me as they have my details and C.V.  

She told me that she had also contacted the other place where I am interested in working to see if she can get me work experience and that she spoke to the same person I had spoken to who told my job adviser that at the minute they can't take on any more people for work experience but that my name was on the list and as soon as an opening came up she would let me know. My job adviser told me it could be around or after Easter before I could get the call for work experience but that I was on the list so there was nothing more to do but wait.

I told my job adviser about another job I was interested in doing and she had a look to see if she could help get me a job in that area. She had a look at the website for the job I was interested in and sent me the link to my email address and told me to contact them to ask if there were looking for any workers and to send my C.V. to them. She also said she would contact them herself to ask if there were any job vacancies available and to see what she could do to help in that regards.

She told me it I was 26 weeks on Jobpath and that I would need to take the online skills assessment survey again. As I have mentioned before this it is a Likery scale which is a psychometric scale that is a psychological measurement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likert_scale

This involves multiple choice questions and you tick one of the boxes that say, strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree before moving onto the next question, there are five questions per page and after you answered the questions on the page you were on you click save before then clicking next and moving onto the next set of questions. The survey is only about 5 minutes long and there is about 20 questions.

After I had finished she had a look on her computer to compare the survey I had done the first day I started Jobpath as well as the last survey I did to see if there was any difference in the results. 



She then typed up my review and then digitally signed her initials on my review on her computer and I had to do the same by moving the computer mouse and signing my initials on screen after which she then printed out my review and handed me a copy to take with me.

Before it was time to go she made another appointment for my next review and give me her card with the time and date of my next review and we said out goodbyes and I left.

This Likery scale survey takes place on the first day an unemployed person starts Jobpath, the surveys then takes place at 13 weeks, 26, weeks, 39 weeks and 52 weeks.

Below is copied and pasted from the Kildarestreet.com link at bottom of page.

JobPath is a “payment by results” model. An initial fee will be paid on the production of a personal progression plan for each client; subsequent "sustainment" payments, which will make up about 90% of the total fees for any individual client, will only be made where a person completes 13, 26, 39 and 52 weeks of sustained employment. The fees paid to contractors are tiered based on unemployment durations such that contractors are incentivised to provide an equal level of service to all clients rather than focus their attentions on the clients who are easier to place. In addition, contractors will be required, under contract, to commit to a specific level of progression to employment across all clients. Fees paid to contractors are also subject to a number of controls, including retention fees and automatic price discounts. Retention fees, which reduce the level of payments to contractors, apply if contractors fail to meet contractual performance commitments and-or if they do not deliver a satisfactory level of customer service as measured by the Department in independent customer surveys.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/committees/?id=2014-10-15a.5